I'm sorry that my belief in the right to have a fire arm for self defense is so "insane" to you. We were talking about VT and you keep throwing in 911. and what did i do? Maybe more prisons are the solution, with harsher sentences... One strike your out, instead of three. For what I know places where a gun ban is in effect crime soars. When a disturbed person, such as this student or the ones before him, goes on a rampage, many people point their finger at "society" like it was some far away and unchangeable force. Insecure and yet super arrogant. C'mon, when were you born, last year? You remind me of when I was young and stupid. I like to think, and I could be wrong, that if our founding fathers were still around then there would be a long line of politicians, bankers and corporate leaders waiting on the gallows. by continuing what little psychiatric help he was getting from school to school he could have maintained a level of observation to have kept him from the event at Virginia tech. The Virginia Tech Massacre – Cho killed 32 people and wounded another 25. What would be gained by such a thing, how would you explain the families that lost their loved ones, the fact that anyone can check death records and confirm that these people were killed and how, that anyone can check birth records and other official documents that prove these people did live here and go to school here and so forth, the eye witnesses that saw what happened and have no connection to the government as many of them are still attending VT or going on with other normal lives that can also be easily checked into, the school admitting that this had taken place on their campus which had to be the absolute worst thing a school could have to admit, the interviews with local police and so forth that have worked in that area and know everyone long before this took place saying they saw what happened, etc.etc. It is supposed to be available on Amazon. I understand your frustration. Don’t those darn psychos know that guns are not allowed on campus? Americans should be able to carry guns but automatic weapons should not be for sale to regular citizens. 's by and large population wise. Too bad stupidity isn't painful. I thought this documentary was done so clinically and devoid of all feeling, almost no emotion to speak of. Seeing all of this happening can bring on a feeling of helplessness which causes some to lash out in unpredictable and violent ways. I say we start with your fantastical assertion that intelligent and sane people that knew each other, saw each other everyday, some how got confused or decided to lie about whether or not they just saw their friend get shot, just saw their students get shot, or even saw anything at all take place- how the parents of these children that are well known throughout the community as well as their kids have some how fooled the rest of the community that their children got killed. So I say it is a matter of propaganda: the church keeping people under intelectualized and war propaganda saying it is right, honorable and exciting to kill. The key to preventing mass murder...LOL, I believe Khalil Gibran said it best from The Prophet: Having said that of course what Cho did was ****** up. you are still talking but providing no proof. Read about our approach to external linking. Or be working for big or small government. I'm certain in the history of our Planet there has never been more lies perpetrated by so many people & on so many levels to cover up truth of a conspiracy. Be accurate, not passionate, if you don't mind. My basic idea about all of this? This documentary details the story behind Cho Seung Hui, a South Korean student at Virginia Tech University, who committed a mass murder of 32 people and wounded 25 others in the shooting rampage which has come to be known as the Virginia Tech massacre. with and opening of "I did not see this documentary but am opposed to gun laws" i did not read his till after your post. I wanted to reply to your post to me. Also to say what is wrong with America is wrong, There are fine law abiding citizens there too. (who refused to fire guns at glass bottles. There is nothing wrong with carrying a fire arm for self defense, and if you don't want one... that's fine too. Now this certainly doesn't make me a genius or anything special, but I feel pretty safe saying I can read and have a far better chance of changing things than someone spouting insults and accusations but little else. AND humans are simply animals. The use of violence, deceit, greed, corruption, manipulation and a myriad of other harmful traits are becoming more common place in the daily lives of US citizens. You grow on people - like a wart! Btw, I also read but did not verify (don't know how) that Cho himself was shot twice in the chest and once in the head. People like you are exactly what gives the whole conspiracy theory scene a bad name. Guns, knives, bombs, vehicles, tall buildings, water... What do they all have in common? The problem of this incidents is that it can be prevented. Definitely a safe haven from the coming Revolution. Thanks Daisy, you got me cold. I quit, I'm rambling but this format makes it difficult to check what I wrote. You can't be serious. and can't forensics determine the numbers anyway (I don't know) but must be asked. I am not korean, but chinese. You just don't the "right" people to get them from. Read it for yourself. I wish I knew. Seems that mental health records from the University were "discovered" 28 months after the massacre even though they were demanded right after April 16, 2007. Civil liberties are under attack in America, if you think gun control will save you, go to Mexico (heavy gun control, only the criminals get to have the guns) or China (no civilian firearms people are forced in slave labor for the government). Now I think gun control is a bad idea, but proper gun training is a good thing. Cho did tried to communicate with students in his own way .but it was little to late . You would never run the risk of being proved wrong since that would be more devastating to you than the loss of those innocent lives on that horrible day. It is written he confided that the killer was an "incongruous Cho lookalike", and a week later Soriano died in a fiery car explosion. It didn't because of a godsend of a guidance counselor i had. Why? Ciao. At 9:43 a.m. Cho burst into the room where Colin was attending French class and opened fire. Its a political movement that tries to do away with party labels and ideology in favor of common sense government in the best interest of the people. Ryan Lalonde. . Remember McVey in Oklahoma City? yet removed not the stumbling stone. I think bans on assault riffles and machine guns can help, and am all for them. Guess what? I bet you that the whole of Scandinavia plus Finland, well even if we include all of Europe (that is almost 500 million people) we are not even close to the number of USA school-shootings. Did Timothy McVey blow up Oklahoma Bldg? No, the VT Massacre was never televised. If he would of slept with one girl . You made the offensive statement that the VT shootings were faked and that since we never saw the bodies and blood we were sheep for believing. I'm all for moving to Switzerland, probably the most Democratic country on the planet, and they apparently don't get involved with wars. then i see this rammbling post after post he is putting up. Well actually, you can buy 9 milimeter pistols in Denmark if you have been a menber of a legit gun-range association, for two years! This video documents various aspects of the shooting on the Virginia Tech campus. ), the original subject can be smeared and dismissed. But you sir are an analytical moron. But when you start this kind of drivel you make the whole crowd look pitiful. So where is it? I developed social anxiety as a child. One of the worse school shooting happened in Montreal. Lets stick to your assertion that the shootings at VT were faked, which now you want to try and back out of. I am not arguing the rest of your post...just stating. There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure. Or are we to scrutinize everything we hear except that which you deem worthy to spout about. He has also spends tons of time providing hands on help for needy children in third world countries. And most people think we live in a free country, ha. Prove to me that Cho killed those students. @trumpsahead, All he had to do was read to see you were mixing these topics, not us. yes yes agreed, but just like in brazil where about 3/4 of the people are catholics... canada's catholics are harmless and don't take it seriously(most of course). Ok Gough, your ignorant banter is still shocking. It is not that people want to kill each other, it is culture teaching it is ok to surrender control of emotions to religion and the government, so when people lose it they use the easiest alternative to discharge their wound up rage. Give me a break junior, your out of your league on this site, all opinions and assertions with no real facts or even common sense. The Virginia Tech "massacre" was echoed through the government controlled media as one of the most famous mass shootings of all time. If his mother had sought out professional psychological help early on instead of dragging him from church to church (even subjecting him to an exorcism) who knows..it might given him the tools to prevent this. Imagine for a moment, everybody is allowed to bear a gun, in school , on work, in discos, everywhere. I agree.. and I have had friends who were not outcasts and at age 26 have never even hugged a girl because people considered them weird and shy etc. Ffs i'm not even gonna reply to him directly he scares me and is sound's like he has gun's or think we should all have them. After the face of the bldg collapsed from the explosion, it was discovered there were charges still attached to beams that failed to blow; read it in the papers myself, then later in many "conspiracy theory" articles. That's interesting. If you have nothing to add, just shut your traitorous face. See all episodes from The Wednesday Documentary, This programme was restored as part of the World Service archive project, About the BBC World Service Archive Project, Contact us to bring something to our attention. Der Präsident der Hochschule, Charles W. Steger, sagte über die Ereignisse: The university was struck … It was most likely a creation to divert attention from invading Iraq or something can't remember what was going on at that time. The ones we have now may be bad but they pale beside you, if the hateful rhetoric you've posted is an indication of how you would run the country. Not because they have a disease but because they shouldn't have been put in these situations to begin with. 911 was an inside job, and the evidence is prosecutable. . Are you doing that on purpose? This is no battle of wits between you and me. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." yes Just like cars are to be blamed for drunk driving. Az. i like the way you think. You would have to know someone in the Bandidos or Hells Angels. For the life of me, as a White man who respects the natural and healthy and normal desire of each and every race of people on this planet to wish to preserve themselves and to pass on THEIR genes instead of the genes of some other race which is totally unlike themselves - I cannot understand how so many non-whites seem to adopt this attitude of 'entitlement' and think that it is their right to steal a female from White European men. Follow. If you had of ranted about 911 I wouldn't have had a word to say, but you didn't. Early in the morning on 16 April 2007, on the Virginia Tech campus in America a 23-year-old student called Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people before turning his gun on himself. In a fair trial it would easily be proven beyond reasonable doubt that 9/11 was a Demolition of three buildings, and all the evidence points to the White House. Maybe that's why there's less insanity in Denmark than in the USA. Even if he may had been a privileged college kid. Ay, and he falls for those ahead of him, who, though faster and surer of foot. i also disliked how my parents were very skeptical about the work of a social worker and what exactly they were doing to "help" me. More information on Virginia Tech Shooting: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/vatech.htm Everyone knows that conspiracy takes place, always has always will- but it is never these elaborate meat headed schemes people like you dream up. On 9/11 however, millions believed or knew immediately the hundreds of anomalies. He describes the scene of a mass shooting of students and staff. Browse more videos. i have met people with this kind of persona...difference is the didn't get hold of a gun. Just so you know my parents are European and same thing. I care about my country, and I'm ashamed of what's going on and what govt is getting away with. What is your evidence that Tech was a PSYOP. Now why didn't anyone challenge that statement? What do you think would happen in the world? But if you have more proof than just your opinion, I will gladly listen. Do you still believe Timothy McVey blew up the Oklahoma bldg? Remember, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Amin, Bush, were not cartoon characters, they were real. Anyone that has followed my posts knows that I am vehemently against the governments crooked lying and deception, and that I spend much of my time involved in legitimate volunteer work and grass roots organizations to try and change that. I felt that this man was not dead, and they showed that clip over a thousand times since the only News you saw was a five minute loop all damn day. P.S. If there is to be a revolution, I can only hope that you are not among the leaders. I am just saying that the occasional massacre is just part of the show....and government should not take the right of millions to own whatever weapons they want because of it. Report. Hum......... Based on Cho’s videos and the comments of those who knew him, Cho was deeply disturbed. That was real and emotional. That is all I can say. i knew i always wanted help but i was too scared to say anything. the boy kept telling his male friends that he wanted a girl friend in so many ways . I always yawn when I'm interested. I don't think you are a sheep . I was diagnosed with clinical depression, but later with narcolepsy. However If a person does need a firearm for protection then he/she should be trained well enough to do the job with a dual action revolver or a shotgun not an AK-47. This is a unique look inside the mind of a mentally ill murder. Real investigative thinking often requires a leap of faith. Apathy is always the beginning of the end. Cho may represent many that are isolated and war torn. Acutally for the record I am student studying for a B.A. BLACKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Cho Seung-Hui said Monday's massacre on the Virginia Tech campus could have been avoided and said "you forced … Because of his violent writing style . People with guns - that is. There are plenty of countries with just as many if not more weapons owned by the public, still they do not have the violence and killing like we have here in the states. so now we are talking about 911, why? Consider the following: The USA PATRIOT Act, at 342 pages, consisting of 156 separate sections, under 10 discrete titles, covering 350 subject areas involving 40 different federal agencies, was written within the 3 week period prior to its introduction to Congress, on Oct 2, 2001, at the average calculated rate of 16 pages per day. How do you think it makes their families feel to hear things like this? Now think about the fact that you are wrong, and these people did get killed. This is common for true introverts. anything i discussed with my therapist in sessions were to remain private, but my parents didn't seem to get the message. "Did you see the mournful expressions during family interviews?" Sometimes I'm afraid that it's already too late and at other times I'd like to start building those gallows. Yes. Compared to USA, you cant buy these guns here In Denmark. You are obviously over the edge and a liar. And terrible and shouldn't have happened. Most people voice contrary opinions only if someone in main stream asserted themselves first and got some publicity; with VT I don't recall that ever being the case. All the best from Spain. It was a very large man who I doubt was a student. We call the police because they have guns, not pens to document what already happened to us. The right to carry a fire arm for self defense is not diminished for me by this tragedy, but enforces the argument for the need of the 2nd Amendment in the United States Constitution. Playing next. Most people are getting the hang of the Bama BS by now also; say one thing then do the opposite, a political ploy used even before the Roman Empire, ha. I could probably. That's all you're gonna get, if you can read and are a patriot, investigate. But sadly most parents don't care about there children anymore today, so then this can happen. Your naivete really shines: What does the school have to gain you ask. I even have sympathy for him as there were a number of signs that he needed help, but most of all i feel for the people deeply affected by this outcome. But you are quick to put me down. You know what i think? Why couldn't all or certainly most of the people in that VT documentary be actors, or paid handsomely to be "directed" as they certainly seemed. I just have to ask, are you Cho Seung Hui reincarnated? living in America, its evident and we also like to think its 1900 on one half of the country and 2050 on the other side. Narrow your attact on Virginia tech so we can know exactly what you are trying to say. as i got older, my social anxiety became worse and worse to the point i couldn't even hold a fairly stable conversation at school without holding my silence in embarrassment and fear or freezing in terror when someone who ask me something as simple as where the science lab rooms were. Any one can see that the current gun laws do much more than just provide people with basic access to basic protective weapons. They are different than the bible tumping born agains and baptists and penthecostals and blah blah blah. Wake up and smell the bullshit kid because a tsunami of it will be hitting a fan in your neighborhood really soon. Temple Film Collective hosted a screening Monday, April 16, of the documentary “Living for 32,” about the Virginia Tech shootings on April 16, 2007, on the five-year annive This is the fourth time I'm mentioning this. I see nothing wrong with mixing cultures in fact I think it is a good thing that brings about understanding, and new ideas. Did you see the mournful expressions during family interviews? We have federal agents allowing the sale of high powered weapons to Mexican drug cartels and citizens arming themselves to the teeth partially because of drug runners with high powered weapons! So you are from Ireland? You would make an excellent juror. And I was 12'000 km away, at college. But anyone saying that a fully loaded with fuel Boeing 767 could not drop a building is just ignorant. It's not up to the individual. Read my other reply to your traitor friend. Why aren't you proof demanders demanding proof that govt is Not trying to destroy America when every action and decision is totally against American citizens. My Asian wife is a perfect example. I corrected that bin Laden mistake as I was thinking faster than I could write. . YOU CANNOT PREVENT what happens to this earth, to people, to yourself. I also hold a job in the theology department of the college I attend and am completing my second degree currently, majoring in physics. No, it was not televised? Well now we tell you we did see the bodies, we also have posed several very logical questions to you which you can't answer obviously. The attitude and actions of the government should be a reflection of its people. Cho Teacher gave up on him . you don't even know me but you feel qualified to make accusations about someone you never met. all those who were victimized by this pathetic excuse for a human being. The accredited Scientists, Physicists, Architects, Structural Engineers, Intelligence Officers, Retired Military Brass, 911 Researchers, Scholars, 911 victim families, 46% of all New Yorkers, and Millions of Americans are calling for truth and justice. Jokes aside....the city I come from ni brazil has 50 murders a weekend..... yes, one city with about a 1,5 million people. com. R.I.P. Getting laid. I just want to say, I was not always pro firearms for self defense, but that is an undeveloped younger self who was a little green around the ears. Hard to explain to someone who hasn't been there.. ). you want to be insulting and attack me personally? who gives a ****? yes but irrelevant to this subject additionally why is it so easy for military to gain control of a nation and do bad things to its people....because there always mostly unarmed...when the civs are armed it acts as a deterrent against government corruption and so forth...and is needed when as ALWAYS government go corrupt to the core, to revolt and replace them....such is the need in most democratic countries now anyways...a corrupt gov does its best to disarm its people so they don't pose a threat against its corrupt control...obviously...nothing to do with protection...to disarm is to become vulnerable.... that's why an army exists, because otherwise the nation would be vulnerable...there is always a Hitler, but such as what the US and nato are doing...thats pure idiocy and genocide....not what a army should be used for...defence, not greedy aggression. u'd give up your rights so the only people with good weapons are the ones willing to break laws. Here, the attitudes and actions of our goverment are slowly and insidiously infecting "we the people". az. This boy was locked up in jail by the police for trying to communicate with a white girls . the worst part is i didn't know what i was feeling and although i knew it wasn't normal, i couldn't tell anyone. It's clear that wald0 made many valid points and you base your entire argument on your own paranoia. To lose a family member and then to have someone say that it is a lie and that it never happened would be especially painful. The Virginia Tech shooting was a school shooting that occurred on April 16, 2007, at two buildings, West Ambler Johnston Hall and Norris Hall, on the campus of the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, in Blacksburg, Virginia. And normal. People like him should just get more attention on the right way and help on the right way. On the five-year anniversary of the shootings at Virginia Tech, students gathered to watch "Living for 32," in rememberance. I believe VT was also a false flag operation and there are many anomalies of that day to validate what I'm suggesting. Cho, obviously much more intelligent, fired 200 rounds in half an hour, and needed 4, 5 or 6 bullets to finish off his 32 innocent victims, who were locked in class rooms. Wow, that's scary...I feel really bad for his family. But...yeah, the states is crazy. Why? You did not offer one answer but a tirade against me. Shame on you. in Music Technology at Maynooth Univercity, Kildare. I still don't get it if he was retarded or a genius, or it's just the self determination that makes him achieve his goals? Besides what could the government hope to gain from this, the administration that was in office at the time was pro gun, IRA members to the last. BTW, in your reply, the correct spelling is right "TO" self defence, not "TOO". You set up a false choice, either we have the current gun laws or they take all guns. Today we still cannot get answers because we are bullied by govt. i have some joy in my life now although i struggle at times to push myself forward. By Amy Minsky Global News Posted October 2, 2017 2:04 pm . One could make a decent living selling secondhand books in the 1970s, before South Korea’s economy began to boom. his last words to his male friend was taking his own life . I bet if someone made a documentary on "How To Think and Reason" no Americans will watch it. Talk to the students and teachers, find those who claim to be related to the shooting victims, corner all those you call actors and expose them. More police. And do you actually believe MILLIONS of people think this shooting was some giant conspiracy? it was a very touchy subject, especially since i felt like my own parents cared more about the money they were spending on my therapy sessions rather than my growth as a person. There were plenty of ambulances lined up at the curb, but no action. y/n Of the 17 people in his Virginia Tech classroom in April 2007, Colin Goddard was one of only seven to survive. But you make it sound like its similar to buy some dope - well it isnt. A few bad apples... yes but show me a country that doesn't have these. Sometimes it is preventable, sometimes it is not. I mistakenly wrote "bin Laden died while Papa Bush was having lunch with his brother..." but meant to say Bush was lunching with bin Laden's brother during 9/11. He was even 'exorcised!' Thank you Tom, I stand corrected... you would make a great secretary. What is reality anyway? When we go into a civil war one day soon, you will be on the side that protects the status quo. Because they all just thought he was just crazy and strange . we sure do act like it. my dad on the other hand is afraid a stranger will try to trick and launder off with their money in a scam. Ok, maybe some informations were not sufficient evaluated, but he disguise his latter violant nature very good. Armed societies are polite societies, and Switzerland is armed to the teeth with virtually no crime. This entire world was once one land mass. Violent? What if govt sent in an expert shooter to kill these kids, then used Cho as the patsy because his problems could be made into a story, and he had very little family here. Background Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, Virginia 130 buildings 2,600 acres 34,500 students, faculty and staff 35 officers 6 short of capacity Emergency Response Team Mutual aid agreement VTPD and BPD training Cannot release emergency messages No Some children just stay children hung up on their own twisted bitter idea of the world. they label him as some strange crazy college student . I really don't know right now. Just reading the words brings a chill up the... September 16th, 1920. 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